I went to see Thor: The Dark World with some of my work colleagues last night. So, was it the pseudoscience that wrecked our suspension of disbelief and thus, temporarily, our enjoyment of the film? Was it the phase meters and quantum field generators? Was it the dude flying around being manly in armour and wielding a magical fecking hammer?

No. No, it wasn’t. That stuff just causes us all to piss ourselves laughing.

What ticked us off was the unnecessary mucking about with the geography of the London transport system. This is what happened. Thor gets on a Tube train at Oxford Circus. In Actual Real Bloody London as opposed to Stupidly Underresearched Magical Fecking London, this would be the Victoria, the Central or the Bakerloo line. He asks a fellow passenger, “How do I get to Charing Cross?” She replies, “This train, three stops.”

Now, if he were on the Bakerloo line, it would be two stops. If he were on the either of the other two lines, it’s minimum three stops AND he would have to change trains at least once.

Add to this the fact that he apparently arrived there in under thirty seconds and you have a whole group of Formerly Amused Scientists who have abruptly transformed into Pissed Off Londoners.

Also, the fight he was trying to return to? Located in Greenwich. They could’ve burned the entire eight minutes and more that they needed to keep that dark elf dude occupied by getting him stuck on a Jubilee line train with severe delays.

So that was the biggest problem I had with this film. Totally rational, I think, because it would’ve been so easy to correct with minimal fact-checking, whereas giving a solid theoretical explanation for interdimensional travel by manly hammer-wielding dudes would not.

(Side note: What is it with filmmakers and planetary alignment every five thousand years to bring about death/destruction/dark powers? Tomb Raider. The Fifth Element. Thor. What others am I missing? I’m sadly certain that there are others.)
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Legend of Korra is currently doing it on a 10,000 year cycle.

(It was something a bit like this that ruined China Mieville's Kraken for me.)
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Also, to be fair, this wasn't a planetary alignment but a realm/universe alignment.

Still don't know why 5k is so magical, but.
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Let me know what level of spoiler you are comfortable with and I will let you know about it.
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I'm re-reading Kraken now, and loving it.

Isn't 5000 years roughly the Egyptian pyramid building era? It's long enough ago to be very distant, but still within what we think of as the history of human civilization.
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Actually, it's Charing Cross he gets on at. [/pedant]

Thanks to that scene I have discovered that there are no longer overground trains straight from CC to Greenwich - they all originate at London Bridge now.
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And he does ask how to get to Greenwich. *has maybe seen it a few times already*

I am informed this is also not possible, in the time it takes, but.
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*palms up shrug?* I'm 100% certain the version I've seen all three times has "Charing Cross" on the wall and him asking for Greenwich? So I can't help you there, unless the UK one is actually different.
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Tony & I both thought Charing Cross to Greenwich, and felt his reappearance at Greenwich suggested an unnaturally fast ride.

But we loved it anyway, because after all we're only tourists in London :-)

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Even the Charing Cross to Greenwich journey is bothersome for its speed! Fortunately I was too busy laughing at them slamming into the gherkin and every other hilarious London landmark.
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Not least because it was filmed on the old Jubilee line platform at Charing Cross, everyone's choice for modern films set on the underground (use Aldwych for vintage).
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Randomly, the bit that I have to edit out to keep from headdesking so hard I concuss myself?

Erik running through all the "ancient civilizations" who built monuments and . . . including the Mayans. Who were thousands of years after the others he was running through. Altho at least it wasn't the damn Aztecs, who were mediaeval.
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At least Erik has an excuse on account of definitely not being all there post-Loki.

Skarsgard was clearly having a whale of a time. As was everyone else - I now think Chris Hemsworth should get an award for keeping a straight face among that crew.
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It's the hilarious "these lines JUST HAPPEN to intersect at Greenwich" moment.
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To be fair, the second time I went I watched the map, and he only actually drew lines from what looked like some of the British Isles notable megaliths. Which makes more sense, for lining up with Greenwich.

Which just makes his dialogue there even more bizarre and inexplicable.
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Aw man, I hate it when writers don't do their research, especially when it's something so easy!
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Yes, but then again, Jubilee line to Greenwich would have been useless since the O2 is miles from the Naval College...

I have a theory that film makers do it deliberately because it gets people talking.
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Wife: "It's obvious. The person he asked was clearly an agent of evil, and trying to delay him by getting him confused about where he was going". So I guess we should be fortunate that they didn't look thoughtful for a second before trying to redirect Thor to High Barnet.
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