Poll #20449 Swimming lessons
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I know how to swim.

Yes
78 (95.1%)

No.
4 (4.9%)

I had swimming lessons

As a child.
64 (78.0%)

As an adult.
4 (4.9%)

Never.
16 (19.5%)

[Optional] I never had swimming lessons because



Humuhumu has been having swimming lessons for about 14 months now. She started in the summer before she began school. She passed Stage 1 fairly quickly, but it has taken her a long time to get through Stage 2, which she officially passed today. This means she can move from the shallow learner's pool, which is only 80 cm deep into the "big" pool, which starts at 90 cm. She had to swim for five metres unaided on both her front and her back in order to move to Stage 3. She can actually swim 10 metres on her front, possibly more.

Keiki's going to start swimming lessons Sunday next, with the same awesome teacher that Humuhumu had. She's going to have a new teacher in Stage 3.

I never had swimming lessons because I grew up in Hawai'i. We always lived in places with swimming pools (apartment complexes and the like) or close enough to the beach for me to be able to go there every day. No indoor pools or heated water needed. I don't have any memories of not being able to swim, so I must have learnt quite early. Watching Humuhumu go through swimming lessons has therefore been a novelty for me. She's already a lot more comfortable being totally immersed than I was. It makes me think that it would have been good for me to have had lessons, as I'd probably be a much better swimmer now.
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From: [personal profile] recessional


. . . I mean I think I should qualify this a LITTLE in that I seem to recall being able to basically dogpaddle already by the age of 3 when I started swimming lessons in Taylor - the point of swimming lessons was to move beyond arm-flappy dog-paddling that developed naturally when "local swimming pool" was one of the cheap "entertain the child" options available, into actually being able to swim specific strokes.

Then I did Turtles in the swim-team (the baby level) because dad was in. Then mom tried Red Cross for a year but got pissed off that they wouldn't let me pass Red (the levels at the time were all colour-coded) because I was "too small" despite being a better swimmer than any of the adults, and put me back in swim-team, which was basically what I did every summer until high-school.
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From: [personal profile] annofowlshire


There was a swimming pool centre in my town, next to the elementary school, so it was just part of the curriculum. That said, the water in the Pacific Northwest doesn't even get warm in the summer. I did enjoy swimming in Hawai'i in the summers, though (my mother lived there).

My husband is a keen canoeist, but I've told him no taking our son in the canoe until he's had some swim lessons XD
Edited Date: 2018-09-14 08:11 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] shirou

TW: Drowning


Apologies in advance for a long and heavy reply, but I share this story because I think it can help people. You're right that swimming lessons can make the difference between a good swimmer and somebody who merely knows how to maneuver in water. This difference is important in a crisis.

About five years ago, my wife, son and I were at the beach with my in-laws when my wife's parents and I were swept away from the shore by a powerful riptide. Neither my parents-in-law were good swimmers, and my mother-in-law went into a panic as the waves started crashing over her head. She drowned.

I tried to help my mother-in-law, but the combination of waves, currents, and her own flailing made it impossible. In the end, I had to save myself, which I was able to do only because I am a fairly competent swimmer, thanks to childhood swimming lessons. My father-in-law was lucky: He was resuscitated by an emergency medical unit and survived with no brain damage. A good Samaritan, who passed on a boat after I took off for shore and jumped in to try to help, was not so lucky: He also drowned.

This was the most traumatic event of my life, and years later, I still deal with the guilt of choosing to save myself, even knowing logically I couldn't have saved anyone else. I still dream of that grueling swim back to shore, and how I might not have made it had people not seen me and pulled me in for the home stretch. I am fortunate to have access to good health care and was able to get treatment for PTSD, but I probably wouldn't be alive today had I not taken swimming lessons as a child.

My son takes swimming lessons. My daughter, who is still younger than Keiki, will. I'm a pretty laid back parent and will let my kids' interests guide their activities, but swimming lessons--at least up to the point they are good swimmers--will be mandatory.
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From: [personal profile] niqaeli


I had lessons from my grandfather, as a child, in his pool. They were reasonably structured and he made sure I was pretty confident in the pool. I then barely swam for like two decades and wanted to start doing so as a joint-gentle way of improving my cardio endurance... and I was NOT efficient at all or comfortable swimming a full lap, so i went and took lessons from a woman who mostly coaches adults who do triathlons. Mostly she just helped me tweak my form so I wasn’t wasting energy inefficiently. That was.... six years ago? I can still swim laps pretty confidently now.
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From: [personal profile] hamsterwoman


I had *a* swimming lesson (in numbers: 1) when I was something like 5 years old, which got something to click and after that I was able to doggie paddle, and any refinements beyond that point were on my own, emulating my parents' fake breast stroke and such. (That's more or less how swimming lessons went in the USSR, from what I recall -- there was no slow build-up to mastery, it was treated as a binary sort of thing. I'm sure people who swam for sport did learn styles, but for the general population the goal was "will not drown if left to their own devices", and that could be accomplished in a couple of lessons.)

I learned in an outdoor pool in a resort city one summer and practiced in rivers and lakes, so the indoor heated pool lessons are a weird thing for me, too. We never did that with the rodents, though we talked about it, and then they learned on their own during Hawaii trips, in the hotel pool.

Like you, learning on my own, I was avoiding being totally immersed for a long time -- I actually only taught myself to put my face in the water once I started snorkeling and there was a reason for it XP Weirdly, O prefers it/can't swim any other way even though that's not how we taught him -- except he also hates having his eyes closed under water, which means he pretty much has to swim with goggles on, or better yet a snorkel and mask. Figuring that out was actually the breakthrough for him to start swimming -- until then, he'd put his face in the water, freak out and flail.
Edited Date: 2018-09-14 08:39 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] antisoppist


I've put "as a child" but it was at secondary school, age 11, where I was the only one who couldn't swim and the PE teacher's approach was to fix that with shame and humiliation while everyone else watched and sighed and groaned at my uselessness. My mother did get us swimming lessons at a local pool but I was about 13 by then, which was years older than everyone else and the baby pool water came up to my knees and it was embarrassing, but not quite as traumatic as school.

My children had swimming lessons with a brilliant (American) teacher here and having watched her with them, I had an adult lesson on my own and she got me putting my head underwater for the first time in 30 years. I now swim lengths without neck ache but unfortunately she went back to America before I had sorted out better coordination of arms and legs.
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From: [personal profile] delight


My swimming lessons were in Lake Michigan with my dad the water safety instructor as teacher, so maybe they don't count as I thought they would given context!
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From: [personal profile] ironed_orchid


I didn't have swimming lessons for two and a half reasons.

Firstly, my dad was a fisherman and I grew up on the beach and in boats. I could swim before I started school. I vaguely remember learning to float, and doing kicks. I mostly remember doing lots of treading water, which is important if you fall off a boat, even with a life jacket.

My school in NZ offered swimming lessons, but in the summer when I was 5 or 6 I had impetigo and was banned from using the pool.

By the time I was in Australian and able to take lessons again, I was self conscious about doing beginner lessons as a big kid. the system there was you couldn't progress to more advanced lessons until you had the cert from the early ones. I do remember doing some lessons where we had to practice freestyle and breathe every fourth stroke.
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From: [personal profile] fred_mouse


Oh, the not being able to progress. I hit 'Junior' at about age 8, and then stayed there for the rest of my primary education.
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From: [personal profile] fred_mouse


yep. I could swim the distance (I could near on do a length underwater at the Kala pool), I just couldn't do the stroke the way they wanted.
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From: [personal profile] chickenfeet


To me, being able to swim is one of those basic skills like reading and being able to read a map. It's fun in itself and it's pretty much a pre-requisite for doing anything in and around water. Without it, canoeing, sailing and so many other things become ridiculously dangerous.
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From: [personal profile] fred_mouse


Australians, in my experience, are Really Big on swimming lessons. It is really common now for babies under 6 months old to be in 'baby swim' classes if the parents can afford it. The state education department provides summer classes that are partially funded for kids between 6 and 17. I think last summer I paid about $30 for two kids to do two weeks of daily lessons, plus entry to the pool (which the pool did a discount pay once thing for as well). And swimming lessons are part of the primary school curriculum. Two weeks of taking swimming gear to school, being bussed to the nearest swimming pool, half hour lesson, back to the school.

So, even though we had a pool in the back yard, and I swam there a lot (unsupervised for much of it) I also did years of swimming lessons. Higher levels are about competitive strokes though. And I stalled about three levels before the top, because my shoulders don't do the right think in overarm, and I couldn't breathe.
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From: [personal profile] highlyeccentric


Yeah, the Australian emphasis on swimming is a real Thing. I say I can't really swim, because I can't swim laps (not for lack of swimming lessons - the muscle memory just hasn't stayed with me), but then I go near water with a non-Australian and... I'm probably not so bad!
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From: [personal profile] fred_mouse


Yeah. The muscle memory is weird! I don't swim from one year to the next, but like you, I'm not so bad!
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From: [personal profile] angrboda


I had swimming lessons in school. It was mandatory for a year. It didn't come terribly easy for me, and although one of the teachers (we'd have two with us) sometimes would take me aside for a some help, obviously they couldn't do that all the time. I was mostly able to stay afloat and I knew technically how but not without those inflatable arm things and not for very long. I'd keep close to the edge of the pool at all times. So they did their best but it wasn't really possible for the teachers to give me all the attention I needed. It was around the same time that we'd gone camping with my aunt and two uncles and my grandparents (three caravans over a long weekend) and the campsite had a pool, so an uncle took me there for a couple of afternoons which worked much better for me. I tend to credit him with having taught me how.
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From: [personal profile] lilysea


(In Australia)

I had swimming lessons both as part of school and in school holidays.

The school holiday "Vac Swim", is subsidised by the education Dept.

Beaches, rivers, and backyard pools are such a big part of life here that swimming is seen as a major public safety (drowning prevention) issue for kids.

I HATED swimming lessons: the instructors who were in their teens or 20s used shame and bullying to try to push me past my comfort zone/skill level, including forcing me to dive off the tallest diving board when I had a fear of heights. :(

I became competent at breast stroke, but could never master overarm, and am USELESS at butterfly.
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From: [personal profile] gorgeousnerd


I'm really jealous of everyone who got formal swimming lessons as a part of school; nothing like that was even remotely offered where I lived until high school, and that still cost money I didn't have access to. (There wasn't even a pool on the school grounds - people who did swimming as part of a larger PE class had to walk a couple blocks to the city pool.) Money was also why I didn't have swimming lessons as a child. But I did have a lot of time in my apartment's pool and a nearby lake as a kid, and I tested in the highest tier of swimmers at Girl Scout camp, so I'm at least basically competent. I wouldn't be a lifeguard, and I don't really go to ocean beaches, but I can handle myself in the situations I'm likely to encounter water.

The niblings got put into swimming lessons as early as possible, though. Sister isn't a strong swimmer at all and she saw the need for it as a skill because of statistics about childhood drowning, which I completely agree with. It's just a nice bonus that the kiddos love it, too.
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From: [personal profile] liseuse


I had swimming lessons from being a baby, and then we had them through primary school - I found those really boring because I could already swim and was already taking more advanced swimming lessons and swimming semi-competitively (I say semi-competitively because I am basically the least competitive person known to man, and didn't actually care about giving it my all in the last three seconds to beat someone who was edging up on me and who clearly wanted to win more).

I used to swim a mile every Sunday and I really miss swimming, but I am lazy and the pool is just that bit too far to walk to and from after having swum. I keep promising myself I'll get back to it. I could do with taking some adult lessons really because the years of shoulder problems have made me a very lopsided swimmer and who knows that could be what finally teaches me how to front crawl! I was excellent at breaststroke but never learned how to move anywhere with front crawl.
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From: [personal profile] st_aurafina


I learned how to swim as a kid - I don't even remember my first swimming lesson, actually - but because I stopped as an adult I kind of lost the ability. Not floating and dog paddling and generally not drowning, but the kind of swimming you need to do laps. So I took adult lessons, and it was pretty good.
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From: [personal profile] marymac


My dad taught me to swim at an age so young that I don't remember not being able to, making the compulsory school swimming lessons in P5 and P7 crucifyingly painful because they didn't have enough instructors to allow for the five competent swimmers to do anything but stand around freezing slowly while the other 25 were hauled through the basics. It did stand me in good stead for coaching sailing though, which often involved hanging off things in cold water until the kids were retrieved and you could start untangling whatever upended you in the first place.

Despite the other half having swim competitively at one point, Child has had school swimming only and as with many things in her secondary school, they only seem to put effort into kids who are already good, so I've spent chunks of each holiday coaching her up to speed. But we need to get her an actual instructor for a few lessons because the breathing through crawl comes so naturally to me that I can't find a way to explain it and then she just holds her breath and powers through until she sinks.
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From: [personal profile] euphrosyna


I had lessons as a child and as an adult but still can’t really swim. Like I can theoretically do it but in actuality I don’t like having my head under the water and I can’t do the breathing. I can swim for as far as I can hold my breath only.

Edit: my baby has been in baby swim lessons since he was 3 months old because I’m deteremined he will be able to swim. He loves it.
Edited Date: 2018-09-15 02:50 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] highlyeccentric


Fascinating wording here: I know how to swim. As opposed to 'I can swim'. Which... pretty much describes me! I am perfectly safe in the water, I'm confident that if I fell out of a boat I wouldn't instantly drown, I go 'swimming' for fun when I'm at my parents' place.

I had swimming lessons up to about age twelve, in school holidays, plus through school until fourteen or fifteen. I maxed out the technical swimming lessons, but was clearly not a candidate for lifesaving certificates or squad training, so my parents for a year or two paid for me to have a private coach while my little brother finished the kiddy lesson sequence.

For all that, I still can't... actually swim 25 metres. I could /during/ the swimming lessons, but pretty much every year I regressed over winter. These days if you put me in the water and ask me to swim from A to B I... struggle. I'll be perfectly safe, but ungainly and probably going sideways.
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From: [personal profile] davidgillon


Like most British kids I had swimming lessons at school. I think starting in primary, but I'm not absolutely sure about that, that would have needed a bus to get us there as we were in an outlying village. The local pool was about half a mile down the road from my secondary school, but we then got a pool on the site and used that instead. (And that's why I have a cap on one of my front incisors - I dove in and leveled out just too late - my tooth was the only thing that hit the bottom)

I do recall we did basic lifesaving as well - how to tow someone, and how to turn your clothes into basic buoyancy aids.

Nowadays I've lost most of my ability to swim - not that I was ever a strong swimmer - my shoulders can't take front or back crawl, and breast-stroke legs feels like someone is trying to tear my leg off at the knee, but I can paddle along on my back with legs alone if need be.
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From: [personal profile] silveradept


I grew up with a pool next door, and one at one of the relatives, and summers get sufficiently hot and humid such that taking a swim in the pool is a thing you do.

I never had formal swim lessons, though, and so I won't say that my technique is worth anything. And I might not remember exactly what to do if I get caught in hostile currents, but there was a lot of early time with slides and arm-buoyancy aids (we called them water wings or floaties) and then a lot of diving board and diving platform experience. And some boating and inner tube skiing (and a little proper water skiing) on the various lakes as I got older.

If "know how to swim" means being able to do all of the competitive strokes for significant distance, then no, I don't have that at all.
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From: [personal profile] omnipotent


I love swimming as an adult and genuinely wish I had had more access to pools and lessons as a child. I am from a landlocked state and a rural town, so private pools weren't really a "thing" and neither were public pools. My cousin's family moved to a house with a pool, but I was afraid to go in the deep end because I thought I would drown. My cousin could sort of flail around with something approaching breaststroke, but I was too scared so I could only frolick up to the 6 ft edge--I was already tall for a teenager but wasn't quite the 6' I am today.

As an adult, I decided that living in a state surrounded on three sides by water, while being unable to swim, was simply too dangerous. Learning as an adult brought a new form of exercise into my life, one that I find I strongly prefer. It has become a reflex for me to stop breathing the instant my nose is submerged. I can do all strokes but butterfly--I can dolphin kick, but not well enough to provide any significant propulsion, so whenever disposable income re-enters my life, that will be the final stroke to conquer. Breaststroke is easier on my knees, but hard on my wrists, so I usually stick with front crawl and consider that my best stroke. Backstroke is fun but I find that I often misjudge distance and end up slamming the back of my head into the end of the pool lane, so I don't do it often.

If gators weren't so prevalent here, I'd try open water swimming, but I am rather fond of having all of my limbs attached to my body, so I'll stick with chlorinated pools that are reasonably some distance away from a pond/swamp. At the gym, the most I have to deal with is creepers acting like they have never seen a leggy woman in a bathing suit before. [insert eyeroll here]

Have you thought about maybe doing those parent-child swimming lessons with Humuhumu? I know your schedule stays pretty packed but maybe even one lesson together a week could improve your own skills?

And on that note, post-swim hair care is a must.
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From: [personal profile] hairyears


I had swimming lessons as a child *and they did not work*

No quality control or performance management of the instrucors at all.

I taught myself to swim as an adult. Not well, and I am neither a confident nor particularly capable swimmer. But deep water isn't immediately lethal to me now, as it would have been before, during and after my childhood lessons.

The moral: check that your childrens' swimming lessons are actually working. The objective may well be to have given children swimming lessons, with no particular interest in them actually becoming able to swim.
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From: [personal profile] askygoneonfire


My Mum only learnt to swim in her late 20s when her two sons could swim (because she took them for swimming lessons). When she used to go to the public pool with them, they would swim to the deep end when she told them it was time to leave, because they knew she couldn't come after them. She took lessons when she became weary of this.

Curiously, my Mum can't float. She just...sinks. Even when she's doing a perfectly servicable breaststroke, she does so sort of vertically. She says this is a consequence of learning to swim too late in life.

I can't remember not being able to swim, but I can remember swimming lessons and absolutely loving them. I'm sure there's a class or club for you if you did want to develop your skills and become more comfortable - I keep saying I'm going to join my local swim club for the elite training (fancy name, just coaching for better technique)
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