At my last visit to the midwife, she waxed lyrical over my assertion that I plan to breastfeed Keiki as I did Humuhumu for the first six months, tapering off once I went back to work and switching to the bottle. I found myself getting deeply uncomfortable as she carried on talking and became more obviously comfortable extolling the benefits of breastfeeding over bottle-feeding. I distinctly felt as though she were trying to make me feel somehow superior to someone who replied, “No, I plan to bottle-feed from the start,” and I did not enjoy the experience.

It reminded me of the NCT* classes we took before Humuhumu was born two years ago. We have made some good local friends from the classes, so overall I was pleased with the outcome, but there was one portion of it that I loathed: the breastfeeding session. It was held on a Tuesday evening, and we sat for 2.5 hours listening to a woman bang on about the gloriousness of breastfeeding. When we asked if any information about bottle-feeding was to be presented, she reacted not quite with horror, but certainly with disapproval, and ultimately refusal.

Of the eight sets of parents in that NCT group, two of us ended up breastfeeding our babies. (One very determined mother couldn’t get her baby to latch, but she pumped milk for five and a half months, every four hours, and bottle-fed her little girl. I don’t like to imagine how exhausting that must have been.) All the rest ended up bottle-feeding, and found it their stress levels elevated because of the lack of information and encouragement given in our classes. In my opinion, everyone in our class should have been given a checklist of the size and number of bottles that would be needed, the type of teats to use, sterilisation techniques and a quick tutorial on measuring and mixing formula. Figuring all that out on the fly when the need became immediate was terrible for the new mums in my group, especially the ones who had difficult births and were very unwell in the early days.

I am not a big fan of using ignorance, scorn and guilt as tactics to force people into a certain course of action. I consider this to be pretty clear (albeit anecdotal) evidence of why that doesn’t work.

My own experience with breastfeeding was not all sunshine and roses. The first two weeks were a nightmare. Humuhumu didn’t know how to latch properly at first and the damage her little mouth did in the first few days took some time to heal. I was in excruciating pain. I very nearly gave up and switched to bottle-feeding until I discovered Lansinoh (lanolin cream). It became easier after I’d healed, but it is still no picnic being the one who has to wake up at least twice a night for weeks in order to feed the baby, with no help from your partner**. Nor is it fun working out how to breastfeed in public. It takes practise to do it discreetly, and even if you are nicely covered you still get people glaring at you. Because despite the pressure to breastfeed because of its benefits (most of which are both temporary and slight), no one actually wants to see a woman doing it, so we should all stay at home until our children are weaned. Slow-clap for society on that one.

I was also absurdly lucky in that Humuhumu began to sleep through the night at two months. (I tend to keep this fact to myself, as it often elicits disbelief and rage from other new parents.)

There are enough pressures on new parents to do exactly the right things for their children in order to raise them in the best and healthiest manner possible. I’m tired of seeing people judge one another for their choice of breast v bottle. Judgy person, you have no idea why a mother at the cafe is bottle-feeding her child instead of breastfeeding. Maybe that’s pumped breast milk because her nipples are really sore. Maybe her newborn was tongue-tied and couldn’t latch. Maybe she went three continuous weeks without more than an hour of sleep a night. Maybe she’s on medication that enters her bloodstream and could be harmful to the baby. Maybe she had to go back to work as soon as possible to support her new family. Maybe her boobs blew off in a typhoon. Maybe it’s none of your damned business.

* National Childbirth Trust, which offers classes for clueless middle-class career people in how to look after an infant after a couple of decades of selfishness. They don’t advertise that way but that’s effectively what they are.
** I hasten to point out that this is not necessarily because Partner is unwilling to help, but because it makes more sense for Partner to get some sleep and be able to take care of things like cooking and cleaning and holding down their job.
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From: [personal profile] cmcmck


A friend of mine on LJ had a nightmare trying to breastfeed and got the same sort of reaction from the so called 'experts'.

Whatever's best for the person doing the feeding and no one else's damn business at all, just like breastfeeding in public it should be seen as beautiful not something to make narrow minded bigots go ewwwwww!
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From: [personal profile] pulchritude


Have you considered sleeping with Keiki in the same bed? I've read that women who sleep with babies don't have to deal with the getting up at night for (breast)feeding thing (at least, not as much) because the babies sort of automatically latch onto their mums' breasts. It's pretty common here for young children to sleep with their parents still.
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From: [personal profile] clanwilliam


The most insensitive one I heard was from a woman who'd had a double mastectomy. And every single nurse, doctor and midwife on the ward came around trying to make her breastfeed.

As she put it, they'd have had a better chance of getting her husband to breastfeed.

It's a horrible, shitty attitude to have, not just because there are many good reasons why a mother may not breastfeed, but also because the last thing you need just after giving birth is to be made to feel a failure.
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From: [personal profile] ironed_orchid


A couple of friends in the UK have been struggling with breastfeeding, and have just switched to supplementing with formula so that their child gets enough to eat. It's great that women who want to breastfeed get support, but it's not great if it means that parents who use bottles get treated like they aren't trying hard enough.
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From: [personal profile] cmcmck


That is simply nauseating!

Tina kept going long enough to pass the useful antibodies across (and in truth a couple of weeks is enough to do that) then had to transfer to the bottle.

Be you sure attitudes would be different if it were men giving the breast. We all know what wimps they are! :o)

Edited Date: 2014-12-15 04:03 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] ankaret


I love you for this, and especially for 'maybe her boobs blew off in a hurricane'. I have no baby and therefore no skin in the game myself, but making women who are already sore, knackered and can't remember when they last slept feel as if a bottle of formula might as well be a bottle of gin seems both cruel and counterproductive.
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From: [personal profile] purplecat


It is always so wonderful when I hear someone saying something like this. Breastfeeding didn't work out for us, for reasons which have never really been adequately sorted out (but you don't argue when your baby weighs no more at 6 weeks than they did at 4), but the irrational feelings of shame that I didn't end up breastfeeding for months have never really gone away.
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From: [personal profile] antisoppist


At my first lot of ante-natal classes (GP surgery) the midwife told us that breastfeeding was difficult. At the time I thought that was extremely discouraging advice but when I was struggling with it, I was really glad someone had warned me so I didn't feel a failure for not finding it instantly easy, and knew that that midwife would be supportive when I needed help and advice. "Everyone must do it" is crap. "Everyone must do it and it is natural and therefore easy and if it is not easy, you have doubly failed" is also crap. At a time when you've got enough on your plate without stuff you don't need to be dealing with.

I kept on with it because it meant I could sit down and read several times a day and didn't have to wash up bottles. I don't think that gets me the moral high ground.
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From: [personal profile] yvi


Gah, people!

Love the double standard with being told to breastfeed and then demonized when not wanting to do it in a toilet.

The medication I take for my arthritis is not safe for pregnancy or breastfeeding (sort of messes up your folic acid cycle, yay...) so I am at the very least not going to breastfeed for a very long time - caring for a child while having an arthritis flare is probably a nightmare.
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From: [personal profile] askygoneonfire


Maybe her boobs blew off in a typhoon
Hahaha. Yes!

Totally love this post and so in agreement with the active denial of information on bottle feeding. Absolutely gobsmacking that at least the basics of bottle feeding - as you say, bottles, sterilisation etc - are not even touched upon. It does so many women a huge disservice.

NCT is interesting (to me) because it was established as the 'solution' to a total lack of information and support in years before but has become, in the last few years, a negative space for so many people. Lots of parents talked to me about their problems with the classes in my research interviews.
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From: [personal profile] lark_ascends


Completely agree.

My mum tried breastfeeding my sister, but she had to stop because the quality/quantity of her milk was not enough. All of us then ended up bottle fed.

Choices, people!! This is what feminism is about, choices!!
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From: [personal profile] firecat


I look forward to the era when women are not harrassed and blamed about any of their choices around the having, feeding, and raising of children, and I hope it will come about sooner than several thousand years from now.
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From: [personal profile] clanwilliam


I've had conversations with friends who had c-sections or other medical interventions and felt that they'd failed at giving birth, cos natural is the way to go.

I also noticed a pattern of denying drugs until it was too late and "oh, too late, you need medical intervention now" with an implied chunk of "you have failed as a woman and a mother before the baby was even born".

One person I listened to, who I think we both know, I knew well enough to say "well, the other option would have been dying!" in a cheery voice that thankfully did help her on perspective.

The best model I saw for non-shaming came from one of my sisters, who I saw 24 hours after the baby was born because I was in her area for a work trip.

She'd had a gruelling labour, but fantastic support from a team who were honest that the baby was going to take a while, but they were both fine, would you like more drugs and while we try not to do them, if you feel it's too much, we can do a C-section.

So I was admiring the wee chap and my sister said "I hope you don't think I'm being rude, but I'm the first in my childbirth class to have the baby and I need to phone them."

She proceeded to phone her entire class and her first sentence after "all fine, [baby details]" was "and I had ALL the drugs and they are wonderful and thus there is no standard to keep up, so have ALL THE DRUGS if you need them".

Which left me with a rather unflattering opinion of whoever was teaching that class, but my sister is ace.
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From: [personal profile] askygoneonfire


Worth retrospectively pre-empting my comment with fact my research is about LGBTQ parents. My participants generally objected to the heteronormativity, and focus on mummy/daddy parenting roles rather than a more equitable division of activity and recognition of different relationship arrangements. A few lesbian couples found it excruciating when 'mums' and 'dads' were separated to do activities - and their female, non-pregnant partner had to go with the dads. Mostly the critique was that NCT just aren't adapting fast enough to the needs of parents they are offering classes to.
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From: [personal profile] forthwritten


Maybe her boobs blew off in a typhoon. Maybe it’s none of your damned business.

Love this!

How I yearn for the time when women can make choices about their bodies having had all the information necessary to make an informed choice and without being shamed for it. I cannot imagine that breastfeeding evangelism to the point of not preparing people for what bottle-feeding involves is in babies' best interests.
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From: [personal profile] ironed_orchid


I wasn't breastfed, my mum was on medications that made her milk dry up.
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From: [personal profile] castiron


Yes. Breastfeeding is great when it works, but for some mothers (and some babies), it doesn't work. You know who's in a position to judge whether or not it's working? The mother, with input from her kid's pediatrician, her own health care provider, and her co-parent if any. You know who's not in a position to judge? The rest of us.

And if breastfeeding doesn't work, it's not child abuse to feed a baby with formula, dammit.
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From: [personal profile] purplecat


Oddly I've never felt nearly so bad about going back to work at 4 months. Possibly because my husband was strongly in favour of the move, thinking I was stir-crazy and unhappy and that that was doing no one any good. I suppose also I now know several stay-at-home mums and they have to cope with a lot of judging as well. It's a situation you really can't win, whichever course you choose.

No-longer-so-small child seems to have survived it all without observable ill-effects and, in fact, given she finds social interaction difficult I'm glad that by circumstance she was in social situations from when she was very little because otherwise I suspect she would have found school initially extremely challenging. Mind you, we have yet to deal with puberty so she may yet decide to blame us for everything.
Edited Date: 2014-12-16 11:43 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] liseuse


My mother tried and failed to breastfeed, and kept trying and getting massively stressed about it because the health visitor said to! And then her kindly GP just looked at her and went "Stop. Stop trying. Right now. Here is the type of bottle you need to buy and here is the type of formula need. Please just ignore Health Visitor." So she did, with a vengeance. Retrospectively she finds her determination to breastfeed very odd because when she was training as a nurse, and was on her obs-&-gynae stint she was very much "you make the best decision for you, the mother, as the person who has to stay alive and awake to keep small baby alive".
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