[personal profile] sfred said: I'd like to know about your thoughts about Red Dwarf! It was important enough in my pre/early teens that my sisters and I still send each other "Happy Gazpacho Soup Day" messages, so I'm interested in your take.

Ah, Red Dwarf. Discovered when I was a young teenager on PBS in the States, back when the episodes were only played once a year* during the fund-raising telethon. I would spend the whole day in front of our tiny, crappy television, only getting up to make a fresh cup of tea or bowl of popcorn. Each time the broadcaster could afford a new season (a whole six episodes), I would spend a week in ecstatic anticipation.

I loved the losers-and-misfits-in-space concept. I loved the dialogue. I loved that a white guy and a black guy and an android and a creature evolved from a domestic house cat were best frenemies. I loved that they were all kind of terrible at everything but bimbled along regardless. I loved Holly (both incarnations). I turned a blind eye to the gaping plot holes and the flagrant disregard for anything resembling continuity.

I learned about modern British culture. I learned what a Liverpudlian accent sounded like (Lister), and about Cockney rhyming slang (Holly). I learned about the abiding love for ale and extremely hot curries, the strange fondness for rubbish heroes, the wistful yearning for a better reality that is only a minor improvement on the current one, because actually things aren’t that bad when you’re stranded in deep space, but can still have beer, vindaloos and some mates to slag off.

I’ve seen the episodes so many times now that I can quote sections of them verbatim.I find myself quoting them both purposefully and unintentionally (not realising it until much later).

When I need a comforting escape, I turn to them. Sometimes I put them on in the background when I’m working because they can’t distract me, I know them so well. They were a strong influence on my formative years. I might even credit them with spawning a certain unacknowledged anglophilia that drew me to move to England in the first instance.

* I find it curmudgeon-making that we can now watch just about anything any time we want, due to streaming services. Back in my day…!

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From: [personal profile] sfred


*grins*
Thanks for this.

I occasionally find myself quoting Red Dwarf and assuming those around me will get the reference in the same way as other people do with Shakespeare. Sadly I can no longer remember off the top of my head how to say "I love you" in Z80012, using hex rather than binary, and converting to a basic ASC-2 code (but I know where to look it up).

Did you ever read the novels? I liked them too, especially the first two.

From: [personal profile] cosmolinguist


I find it curmudgeon-making that we can now watch just about anything any time we want, due to streaming services. Back in my day…

Oh. Hell. Yes

I found out about Red Dwarf from a high-school friend who watched a lot of PBS; he told me the computer was called Holly but was a boy. I'm with him, I think the show started going downhill with the girl Holly :-)

From: [personal profile] magister


I think the high point of the show was the first two series, when it was a classic sitcom - two people who didn't really get on in an enclosed space - a show in the tradition of Porridge, Steptoe and Son, Rising Damp etc. At that point, plots for episodes tended to come out of character - multiple Rimmer's or the aftermath of Rimmer's party. Also, the Cat wasn't being overused - he'd turn up for a scene or two, be catlike and the bugger off again. Not so much a character, more an occasional event.

Later on, it turned into a sci-fi adventure series with jokes. There was more of a tendency to take situations that would fit other tv shows and drop the characters into them - literally in the case of Back to Earth. I still watch it, but it's not for me the show it was for the first 12 episodes.
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" Sometimes I put them on in the background when I’m working because they can’t distract me, I know them so well. "

[POINTS AT SCREEN EXCITEDLY] That's what I do with Doctor Who! =:o>
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Agreed. Also, the re-casting of Kochanski never worked for me: Fair enough, Clare wasn't available; but having established the unattainable love of Lister's life as a chirpy little Scots lass with a delightfully impish grin, why on Earth would you cast a statuesque RP-speaker with, uh... [TRIES TO BE POLITE] ... a limited range of expression? =:o\

From: [personal profile] cosmolinguist


Thank you for saying so articulately exactly what I think and couldn't express. :)

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I've just been watching some Season 7 & 8 Smeg-Ups: In those, you can see what made them pick Chloe... but only when things are going wrong! Full of life when she relaxes, but when everyone's keeping to the script, she's just blank.

Maybe the struggle of trying to keep a straight face on that set was so huge that it left no safety margin for attempting actual expressions? =:o\

(Of course, this could all just be a case of "you never forget your first Kochanski"... =:o} )
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From: [personal profile] sfred


They basically lost me after series 5 - partly because I think they ran out of decent ideas, and partly because they removed Rimmer's distinguishing feature so he became just Gordon Brittas in space - but I stopped even trying when they'd recast Kochanski. That just made it clear that they'd forgotten what show they were working on.
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