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Mad Scientess ([personal profile] nanila) wrote2014-11-09 08:06 pm

About Thanksgiving

A thing happened recently that I didn't feel comfortable addressing directly with the person involved, so it's turned into a journal post.

Someone felt the need to go on a diatribe to me about how it's a travesty that Americans continue to celebrate Thanksgiving, a holiday built on what can mildly be described as false premises.

Every year I post a picture to Facebook of Wednesday Addams holding a match and delivering the following speech about Thanksgiving.

You have taken the land which is rightfully ours. Years from now my people will be forced to live in mobile homes on reservations. Your people will wear cardigans, and drink highballs. We will sell our bracelets by the road sides. You will play golf, and enjoy hot hors d'oeuvres. My people will have pain and degradation. Your people will have stick shifts. The gods of my tribe have spoken. They have said, "Do not trust the Pilgrims, especially Sarah Miller."...And for all these reasons I have decided to scalp you and burn your village to the ground.

Despite this, every year, I make an effort to celebrate Thanksgiving. Since I've had the space to do so, I've invited as many people as I can cater for to my home and fed them, at the very least, on pumpkin pie and wine. Because I also believe that despite its hugely problematic origins, the saccharine mythology of which continues to be propagated in American schools, it is possibly one of the nicest American traditions in the way it is actually practiced. I have on many occasions not been able to be with my own family on Thanksgiving, including the entirety of the last decade. Yet because of the generosity of friends, colleagues and casual acquaintances, I have never felt alone or unloved on this holiday. When most Americans hear that you haven't got anywhere to be on Thanksgiving, they will immediately invite you to their own celebration, even if they don't know you well, and the invitation will be sincere. You don't have to take it if you don't want to. But the option is always there - to be fed a nice meal, in company of people in good spirits, which in my world is one of the best things you can ever do for others.

I know the origin stories of America, especially as taught to young Americans, are full of inconsistencies and glaring omissions. I know that Americans have, to put it mildly, not always behaved well as colonists. If I were to get romantic about it, I could argue that I embody the conflict between colonial and colonised interests from the cultural right down to the genetic level, given my parents' national and racial origins.

I also know that in choosing to become British, I have taken on the mantle of possibly the most notorious of the modern colonialist oppressors. And I know that in choosing to emigrate permanently, I have given up on participation in a large portion of the culture I was brought up in. I spend 99% of my time immersed in British culture. My partner is British. My children will grow up predominantly British.

So. I get angry when someone feels the need to tell me that, of the 1% of my time that I choose deliberately to celebrate something that is American, I shouldn't be doing it. Perhaps, O White English Person, the next time you feel the need to dress someone down for clinging to a tiny portion of the culture in which they grew up, you should consider that you are possibly not the most appropriate mouthpiece of justice.
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[personal profile] ceb 2014-11-10 12:20 pm (UTC)(link)
I am confused. I thought Thankgiving was a standard issue harvest festival, subtype: large dinner. Does it have baggage, or is the hassle because it's an American thing? (NB I know it's not just an American thing)
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[personal profile] adrian_turtle 2014-11-10 08:09 pm (UTC)(link)
The myth of Thanksgiving is really a different thing from American history. It's almost completely disconnected. The myth is beautiful--I can see why people want to believe it.

Once upon a time, our ancestors were persecuted for their religion in their homeland, so they fled to a place where they could worship freely. The journey was difficult, and they didn't know what they would find. Many of them died on the way, but they were faithful and persevered. Our ancestors did not know how to survive in the new land where everything was strange to them, and they nearly starved. They met strange people, who became their friends, and taught them how to live in the new place. And so they all celebrated together.

It's a lovely fantasy, or national origin myth, or bit of wishful thinking, or whatever you want to call it. (A lot of people buy into the "our ancestors" idea, knowing their ancestors came to the country far more recently. Myths are like that.) You can believe it, or want to believe it, and still recognize the atrocities that came later--the biological warfare, the mass murders, the trail of tears, the residential schools.

I'm not sure if it even matters that the beginning of the myth is false as well. (The Puritans were welcome to practice their religion where they were. They wanted to leave so they wouldn't have to live among non-Puritan neighbors.) People celebrate Christmas without particularly caring whether Jesus of Nazareth was born as the stories say.
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[personal profile] ceb 2014-11-11 09:20 pm (UTC)(link)
Thank you for the explanation. I feel much enlightened!
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[personal profile] crystalpyramid 2014-11-15 05:45 pm (UTC)(link)
Can you please direct me to some sources that will elaborate on your claim that "the Puritans were welcome to practice their religion where they were"? That's something I've never heard, and it's not a claim that comes up supported by a brief Google search. I'm not at all surprised if there are more problems with our national myths than I know about, but I'd like to know about them.
Edited 2014-11-15 17:49 (UTC)
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[personal profile] adrian_turtle 2014-11-19 03:33 am (UTC)(link)
There were religious restrictions on Puritans and other nonconformists in England when James I was king. That's why so many of them went to the Netherlands. The settlers who went out to Plymouth Colony went from the Netherlands--not England. William Bradford (who became governor of the colony) wrote in History of Plimouth Plantation that they needed to leave the Netherlands because they were worried their children weren't growing up to be good Puritans, being surrounded by non-Puritan neighbors.

I had been mixing up some details of the Massachusetts Bay Colony charter (which was very much a profit-making enterprise, with a lot of royal support) with the Plymouth colony of a few years earlier.